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Nicaea, signs of apostasy

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John 17:3 we read, “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

When people ask me: “How can you prove the apostasy?” they think that maybe I will answer them by quoting 2 Thessalonians 2:3 which says, “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first.” Of course, that’s a sure way to start a scripture fight as people argue about whether the apostasy was total, partial or didn’t happen at all. Instead I catch them off guard and start talking about it from a common sense approach.

The scriptures tell us that the first Christians met in councils or conferences to discuss doctrine. We see this in
Acts 15:1,2: “And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.” Also in  Acts 15:6   “And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.”

From these verses it is clear that although the church gathered together to discuss various points of doctrine, it was not the whole church. Instead, these council meeting included only the Apostles and elders, not the bishops. It was the Apostles and elders who decided what was correct doctrine and what wasn’t. It is interesting to note that this first conference was held in Jerusalem.

After this conference we have no further mention of any other councils until the time of the Roman emperor, Constantine who decided to convene one in the city of Nicea after nearly three centuries since the last one. And what was the main topic of that conference?

From the original in Italian:
Dal 19 giugno al 25 luglio (?) 325.
Papa Silvestro I (314-335).
Convocato dall’imperatore Costantino.
Simbolo Niceno contro Ario: consustanzialità del Figlio col Padre. 20 canoni.

PROFESSIONE DI FEDE DEI 318 PADRI
Crediamo in un solo Dio, Padre onnipotente, creatore di tutte le cose visibili ed invisibili. Ed in un solo Signore, Gesù Cristo, figlio di Dio, generato, unigenito, dal Padre, cioè dalla sostanza del Padre, Dio da Dio, luce da luce, Dio vero da Dio vero, generato non creato, della stessa sostanza del Padre [secondo i Greci: consustanziale],

This council meeting was about defining the relationship between God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. In other words, the purpose of the meeting was to decide what they believed about the Trinity. This is clear evidence that there was confusion about what Christians were supposed to believe concerning God. It seems incredible that this conference lasted more than one month in order to decide a truth about God after almost three centuries of teaching others to believe in Him. This subject should have been so clear, and the council meeting should have been nothing more than a simple formality. As such, it’s clear that apostasy was already reigning in the church by this time.

In nearly all Paul’s letters we find him addressing doctrinal problems that had crept into the church. Although there were literally dozen of problems that the church faced at that time, Paul never clearly discussed what kind of person God was. Why was that? . From the very beginning Christians were taught that the Father was greater than the Son, and that the Father knew when Jesus should come again the second time even though Jesus Himself didn’t know. As we look at the beginning of almost each of his letters. Paul always talks about God, the Father and identifies him as the God and Lord of His Son, Jesus Christ. From the casual way he says this, it seems evident that everybody knew he was referring to two separate people, so there was no need for him to point that fact out

If the council meeting in Nicea was gathered merely to affirm or ratify a truth that had already been known it should have been resolved in just one day. Instead the topic of this meeting was controversial and bitterly fought over. In the end what came out was a “DOGMA” which is defined as a “MYSTERY.” In other words, it was something that had to be accepted by FAITH because no one could understand it. And the reason for this was because no one in the church had any real idea about what kind of being God was. But, more troubling was the way they resolved their differences. Anyone who had a different idea than the majority were labeled as a heretic and excommunicated.

Constantine, who established Christianity as the official state religion when he issued the edict of Milan, wanted unity in the Christian faith. Over the centuries the way the Catholic church has maintained its unity is by repressing and persecuting anyone who thought differently. That was the whole purpose behind the inquisitions. They killed those who were presumed heretics and intimidated others into not straying from the Catholic teachings. As such, there was no freedom to believe anything different than what the Catholic church taught. And it was this very desire for freedom that produced the Protestant movement.

It is possible for faith and knowledge to grow where there is no free agency? The answer is a resounding NO! In fact that is why this particular period of time is known as “DARK AGES”. Although the Catholic church preached about Christ, its behavior was the opposite of what He taught. And all of this happened because of the politics of Constantine and because the weak Christians of his time had already fallen into apostasy.

Paul said in Romans How can people worship what they don’t know? The Christians at the time of Constantine didn’t really know who they worshipped and that is why they had the problem they did.

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